SASM 015: The Forces of Order with Dan and Vanessa Hayes

Let me just get this out of the way.

Dan and Vanessa Hayes of Simple Life Together are my kind of people.

They come at life in an authentic, vulnerable, candid, and generous way. And if Keith Ferrazzi writes a third book (fingers crossed), they would be a perfect case study in the philosophy Keith shares in Never Eat Alone and Who's Got Your Back.

Vanessa and I started interacting after she left a comment on my Professional Organizers article and offered to help get me featured on Lifehacker (like she has been). Well, it turns out that both she and Dan listen to Smart and Simple Matters (SASM) and this set the stage for one of my coolest experiences at New Media Expo (NMX).

I was chatting with some folks at NMX when I heard a voice from behind me ask, “Joel?” I turned around to see a guy who I didn't recognize, but he had a warm smile on his face.

“Hey, I'm Dan Hayes”, he said and still it didn't click. “You know, Vanessa Hayes' husband”, he continued. Click. The light bulb went off and the connection was made. Dan didn't recognize my bald head from behind and think, “I bet that's Joel.” He recognized my voice from listening to SASM. I gotta say, that was pretty cool!

I knew I wanted to have Dan and Vanessa on the show after chatting with him for about fifteen minutes. Their story was so good, their mission was so persuasive, and their attitudes were so cheery that it seemed impossible to not have a good time and generate a ton of value on SASM.

The podcasting set up they have for their show made it really easy to record my first episode of SASM with two guests. When it comes to a dynamic duo that knows a ton about simplifying and organizing, you'll want to turn to them for help.

So it's time for you to discover more about and from this cool couple. If you like creating order and simplifying – not to mention laughing and great storytelling – then this is the one for you.

What You'll Learn

Spreadsheets are no joke, but joking about spreadsheets is fun. You'll learn much more than original spreadsheet jokes in this show.

I wasn't sure what they [spreadsheets] were. I took the linen out of the closet and laid it around the bed. I called that spreadsheets. – Dan Hayes

SASM 015 – The Forces of Order and Simplifying with Dan and Vanessa Hayes

What You'll Learn

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